Thursday, September 6, 2007

Feminazi Rebuttals

Feminists gone mad? Sadly that's their fate because their notions and arguments are irrational, so there can be no reasoned debate on the subject. I find it amusing that pacifism doesn't extend to, as Rush (a popular talk show host in he U.S.) has dubbed them, Feminazis.

4 comments:

Bret said...

Which arguments by feminists are irrational?

erp said...

... that women want girly men and men want to be emasculated, that all marital sex is rape; that woman are equal to men at fighting fires and doing rescue work; police work; military combat or anything else that requires physical strength; that a traditional family is no better for a child than two gay men or two lesbians, that children are better off in daycare; that women should have it both ways, i.e., they should be given deference and be treated as equals. An excellent example is that female professor at Harvard who fainted because it was suggested that women aren't mathematically inclined.

Want more?

Bret said...

There's a difference between personal preference and irrationality, though you can't really debate either or those.

Some women, by personal preference do want girly men - heck, some of them just want girls.

I'm a little skeptical that any significant percentage of feminists consider ALL marital sex to be rape.

I think that many women are probably at least adequate for at least some aspects of fire fighting, police work, and military duty. At least some are excellent at it. The problem in this area is when feminists insist on doing away with physical tests that determine whether or not an individual, male or female, is strong enough to perform the required tasks. Eliminating the tests probably does increase the number of women working in those careers. However, that nonsense endangers both the fire fighter and those depending on the fire fighter doing her (or his) job.

To a (radical) feminist it's a subjective preference that children be brought up by gays. If the most important thing to someone is to have children be brought up so they'll support feminism, that's not irrational at all, is it?

As far as having it both ways, who wouldn't want that? That's rational. It can't hurt to try, can it?

If the suggestion was that women aren't mathematically inclined, she would've had every right to faint in my opinion.

That wasn't the suggestion, however. The suggestion was only that while the average ability of men and women in math is identical, the distribution of talent in math is more spread out for men, creating a few more men than women at the right hand side of the bell curve who are extraordinarily good at math. It would then follow that there are also more men that are extraordinarily bad at math and I doubt any feminist would disagree with that. It's only a suggestion of a possibility, of course, so it's doubly ridiculous that she fainted and the Summers was forced out over such a remark.

erp said...

A couple of things. You're using the words, women and feminists, interchangeably. Women, like men, fall into a myriad of categories and have any number of different talents. That some women are strong and tough and some men are weak and dainty is irrefutable, but that has nothing to do with feminism. Only a very small percentage of women ever bought their ideas which I think are irrational for the reasons stated above.

I'm about the same age as the women in the feminist movement of the 60's like Friedan and Steinem, both of whom had privileged backgrounds and knew zip about the plight of the ordinary woman. It was obvious to me from the beginning that their emphasis was on leftwing politics and not women's rights, but that's a story for another day.

As for fainting when it's implied that a woman isn't as good as man at math, that too is a story for another day. I have some ideas that may surprise you on why things that men are good like math and heavy lifting are valued highly while things that women are good at like language and interior decorating are seen as having lesser or even no value.

Good night. It's way past my bedtime now.